Solid Bodies, the 50 Year Guitar War Les Paul vs Stratocaster
Posted 19 July 2010 - 04:48 PM
But...for what I do, which is play in smaller bands...I need some thickness to my tones. I could never get that out of my Fenders, and I can't per se blame the "quality" as one is a MIJ '68 Reissue with Abigail Ybarra '69's and the other is a "Kinda sorta" MIA HWY 1.
I think what broke me...a while back I went and saw Robert Cray in concert. Awesome guitar player...but as soon as he hit that bridge position I kept thinking to myself "Geez...that would sound a lot better if it was a Gibson or if he at least had a humbucker there."
From a construction design, there were slightly different takes on how to deal with sympathetic vibrations affecting the pickups. From Les's perspective, he essentially built a solid body guitar so the pickups would not move (causing unwanted feedback as is evidenced in full hollowbody guitars once you start applying a lot of volume.) Leo's design was sort of insidious in that the plastic guard that houses all of the electronics serves as a plate in which to do mods while at the same time...the plastic does not resonate with the wood, so the pickups are isolated...resulting in...less unwanted feedback.
I guess when it's all said and done, and this is what I can make out of an electric guitar, no matter who built it: There's 2 opposite forces that have to be addressed simulataneously. On one hand, you want as much resonance and sympathetic vibration coming off of the body and neck as possible...but, you don't want the pickups to be affected as these same vibrations which will cause unwanted feedback. (not the good kind, either.) Both had different ways of addressing this.
I think for my personal perspective, I find it easier to work on the Les Pauls because I don't have to remove the entire front of it. I can simply pop off the plate on the back. And as stated, I'm not really used to where the controls are housed anymore (and I've never been one that's sort of been enamored with a tremolo/whammy bar or a wilkinson bridge either. On both of my Strats they're completely blocked off.)
PS: It's not lost on me that one product continues to challenge the other. I've noted that Strats have gone to 22 frets and humbuckers in their HSS models. I hope Gibson can answer the challenge with interchangeable parts that can be removed quickly.
Posted 19 July 2010 - 09:11 PM
'08 Gibson Les Paul Standard Premium Plus
'05 Gibson Les Paul Standard
'81 Gibson Sonex-180 Custom
'10 PRS 25th Anniversary Custom 24
'06 Fender American Deluxe Ash Stratocaster
'07 Taylor 310CE Dreadnought Acoustic-Electric
My Gibson Guitars
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I like my Gibsons--I like my strats and my Tele--I believe I'll keep them all:)
- Mark Twain's Notebook
Posted 23 July 2010 - 08:17 PM
(So I quoted myself, big whoop, wanna fight about it?!)
'01 Gibson LP Classic GT
'02 Epiphone LP Standard Plus
'95 Hamer Slammer Pacer
Early '90s Alvarez Dana 2
Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 401 SL
Dunlop Cry Baby LE
Yamaha DD60 Digital Drum Kit
Posted 24 July 2010 - 07:24 AM
1971 SG Standard Lyre Maestro tremolo, Cherry, original patent number sticker humbuckers
1983 Corvus, old gold, 3 single coil pups with 5 way selector switch
1997 Blueshawk, red/gold hardware,2 blues 90 pups with rotary vary sound selector
1998 Blueshawk, black/gold hardware, 2 blues 90 pups with rotary vary sound selector
2006 LP VM GFC Franken Paul project guitar, work in progress
2006 Johnny A custom, 57 Classic pups
2007 JP EDS 1275, Jimmy Page pups
2007 LP classic Heritage Cherry Sunburst, 496R and 500T ceramic humbucker pups
2007 LP Robot Guitar 1st edition, 490R and 498T pups
2007 LP Custom black/gold hardware, 490R and 498T pups
2008 ES 339 Heritage Burst, 57 classic pups
2008 Alhambra Auditorium Luthier Hand painted one of a kind...
2008 Takamine EG 440 SC
2009 Ibanez PF 15 ECE
Posted 27 July 2010 - 03:54 AM
Furthermore I posess 2 Strats and a Tele as well as a LP. I seldom use the LP because I like guitars that also sound good without distortion. Gibsons are superior in terms of craftmanship but will never sound as good as a fender because of the humbuckers. Besides I don't buy a guitar for the craftmanship but for the sound. As you can see from my login name I am a bassplayer and as far as bass guitars are concerned Gibson certainly is no match for Fender.