[T Manon (Tman5293)]

L Moritz (SG Lou), on 19 July 2010 - 01:33 PM, said:

Yup it is

Don't change my words! If you have any further issues you can refer to the ninja in my signature.

[H Lane (H-Bomb)]

While I think most aspects of the 50th Anniversary SG should really reflect the best of the original's qualities (slightly more symmetrical horns, nice deep bevels, tapered horn tips and the beautiful, mirror-slick medium-to-dark true RED "cherry" color), I will say I feel the sideways vibrola is a really clumsy, borderline-useless piece of hardware and should only be available (if at all) as an OPTIONAL tailpiece beside the more attractive (and in my opinion very useful---I can't live without 'em) Deluxe Maestro Vibrola. I think the "50th Anniversary" model should be kind of a fits-all definitive, truly accurate body (Henry, hire me to help your R&D guys get it right...all the Gibson Forum guys will back me up on that...just give me the prototype as payment ) with tailpiece and finish options that harken back to the early and mid-60's glory days.

You want a Pelham Blue Standard with a Maestro and nickel hardware? Got it! A stoptail-equipped one Candy Apple Red or "Sparkling Burgandy"? OK! How about a basic '65 style (non-faded/non-washed) Cherry Standard with the Maestro and all-chrome parts? Sure! I mean, after all, if we're going to have to pay premiums, shouldn't we get made-to-order, perfect little dream machines? Yeah, there can still be the ubiquitous "stock" models that are available for the shelves and hangers in the stores or "big box" type dealers. And I think those should be simply a USA '61 Reissue with the stoptail and Maestro tailpiece options (and why not the same options for the USA Standard too??? It'd go over well, we all know that), maybe offer a few more finish options on both, and those can be the equivalent of the "F"-brand's import "reissues" (only better, since they'd be USA reissues), while the Custom/Historic series can be that more tailor-made niche at a little more cost. And then for the really, really interested, you can offer those sideways vibrola-equipped aged/relic'd models that look good hanging on the good doctor's wall or whatever (let's PLEASE drop the "VOS" and just have "new" or "not-new" looking instruments...PLEASE?!?!?).

I think this forum is a brilliant idea, Henry, and I hope that it acheives the same level (if not MORE) of true customer/customer-relations interaction as the Gibson Forums offered a little more than a decade ago when myself along with dozens of other forum users (and the help of Gypsy and some of the other folks there who really listened) brought us guitars such as the far too short-lived USA SG'61 w/Maestro and the USA Firebird VII w/Maestro. I would love to see Gibson back on top in quality, customer relations, pride and REALLY bringing TRULY-authentic reissues of the ageless classics we adore so much. While I don't agree with some of the "new innovation" type instruments out there and feel that sometimes the quest for the "next step in the evolution" can override the mission to simply just make the best damned guitars on the planet, there's no reason Gibson can't do both. You just need to make both the vintage (or vintage "inspired") buffs AND the "next generation" happy.

Of course, isn't it funny how the next generation always still ends up eventually gravitating back to those classic designs? There's a reason for that.

So let's get to work and get that definitive SG reissue in its Standard, Custom, Special AND Junior forms going!

H-Bomb

PS...here are a few nice examples of the class, sex-appeal and aesthetic that those old gals had...let's recapture that!!!









(Notice the curves, the balance, the vibrant color...see what I mean???)

PSv2.0: Best SG players to me are Angus Young & Mick Taylor!

[T Manon (Tman5293)]

H Lane (H-Bomb), on 19 July 2010 - 11:36 PM, said:

While I think most aspects of the 50th Anniversary SG should really reflect the best of the original's qualities (slightly more symmetrical horns, nice deep bevels, tapered horn tips and the beautiful, mirror-slick medium-to-dark true RED "cherry" color), I will say I feel the sideways vibrola is a really clumsy, borderline-useless piece of hardware and should only be available (if at all) as an OPTIONAL tailpiece beside the more attractive (and in my opinion very useful---I can't live without 'em) Deluxe Maestro Vibrola. I think the "50th Anniversary" model should be kind of a fits-all definitive, truly accurate body (Henry, hire me to help your R&D guys get it right...all the Gibson Forum guys will back me up on that...just give me the prototype as payment ) with tailpiece and finish options that harken back to the early and mid-60's glory days.

You want a Pelham Blue Standard with a Maestro and nickel hardware? Got it! A stoptail-equipped one Candy Apple Red or "Sparkling Burgandy"? OK! How about a basic '65 style (non-faded/non-washed) Cherry Standard with the Maestro and all-chrome parts? Sure! I mean, after all, if we're going to have to pay premiums, shouldn't we get made-to-order, perfect little dream machines? Yeah, there can still be the ubiquitous "stock" models that are available for the shelves and hangers in the stores or "big box" type dealers. And I think those should be simply a USA '61 Reissue with the stoptail and Maestro tailpiece options (and why not the same options for the USA Standard too??? It'd go over well, we all know that), maybe offer a few more finish options on both, and those can be the equivalent of the "F"-brand's import "reissues" (only better, since they'd be USA reissues), while the Custom/Historic series can be that more tailor-made niche at a little more cost. And then for the really, really interested, you can offer those sideways vibrola-equipped aged/relic'd models that look good hanging on the good doctor's wall or whatever (let's PLEASE drop the "VOS" and just have "new" or "not-new" looking instruments...PLEASE?!?!?).

I think this forum is a brilliant idea, Henry, and I hope that it acheives the same level (if not MORE) of true customer/customer-relations interaction as the Gibson Forums offered a little more than a decade ago when myself along with dozens of other forum users (and the help of Gypsy and some of the other folks there who really listened) brought us guitars such as the far too short-lived USA SG'61 w/Maestro and the USA Firebird VII w/Maestro. I would love to see Gibson back on top in quality, customer relations, pride and REALLY bringing TRULY-authentic reissues of the ageless classics we adore so much. While I don't agree with some of the "new innovation" type instruments out there and feel that sometimes the quest for the "next step in the evolution" can override the mission to simply just make the best damned guitars on the planet, there's no reason Gibson can't do both. You just need to make both the vintage (or vintage "inspired") buffs AND the "next generation" happy.

Of course, isn't it funny how the next generation always still ends up eventually gravitating back to those classic designs? There's a reason for that.

So let's get to work and get that definitive SG reissue in its Standard, Custom, Special AND Junior forms going!

H-Bomb

PS...here are a few nice examples of the class, sex-appeal and aesthetic that those old gals had...let's recapture that!!!









(Notice the curves, the balance, the vibrant color...see what I mean???)

PSv2.0: Best SG players to me are Angus Young & Mick Taylor!

You have basically just restated everything that has already been said on this topic. And the SG in those pictures is pretty much what everybody already had in mind.

[R Willard (Rybass)]

Some things deserve reiteration.

Some visuals:

All '61's with ebony boards of course.

Pelham


Goldtop


I know this one has been done but it's so fine. Walnut



Juniors:
TV


Pelham


Cardinal


Orange sparkle


Faded

[R Willard (Rybass)]

I'm not suggesting the above as "The" 50th anni model but just available as part of the celebration.

I do agree that "The" 50th model should be as close to the original as possible.

[J Ashe (SG fan 420)]

L Moritz (SG Lou), on 19 July 2010 - 07:40 AM, said:

I think you mean TONY IOMMI!!!! GREATEST SG PLAYER EVER AND ONE OF THE BEST GUITARISTS TO EVER WALK THE EARTH!!!

THIS!!!

[T Manon (Tman5293)]

M Landusky (Matt L), on 21 July 2010 - 03:45 PM, said:

H-Bomd hit the nail on the head. If these 50th Anniversary SGs are as cool as we're all hoping, I might even regret buying my Custom Shop SG. Imagine that!

How could you regret buying a Custom Shop SG? Just buy this one too lol.

[T Manon (Tman5293)]

J Ashe (SG fan 420), on 21 July 2010 - 01:29 PM, said:

THIS!!!

NO!!!


ANGUS!!!!

[T Manon (Tman5293)]

M Landusky (Matt L), on 21 July 2010 - 04:50 PM, said:

I just blew all my money on the SG. The last thing I need now is Gibson to release the SG of my dreams!

Well you still have a year. Start saving!

[d papazoglou (dem00n)]

Why ebony?
If you want it to be true put rosewood...

[T Manon (Tman5293)]

d papazoglou (dem00n), on 21 July 2010 - 11:49 PM, said:

Why ebony?
If you want it to be true put rosewood...

+1

[B repaso (BenZ)]

My current SG is a Replica by Fernando guitars here in phillipnes... no other choice but to buy it because of its color.. and tone... so good.. Wish that gibson would make a guitar shop at cebu!!

[R Willard (Rybass)]

d papazoglou (dem00n), on 21 July 2010 - 11:49 PM, said:

Why ebony?
If you want it to be true put rosewood...

Read As I said the actual 50th anniversary model would be as true to original '61 spec as possible BUT the "Woohoo SG PARTY!" models would be something out of the ordinary for a year just as a way to celebrate the SG. You don't see many models outside of the customs coming with ebony. I know ebony is very popular so why not drum up some buzz and have a few models outside of customs offered with some unusual options.

Just an idea. Sounded like fun. Carry on, carry on.

[J Hall (Jonny Rocker)]

Angus is my favorite, but I also like Tony a lot as well. Plus he's a leftie like me!

Gary Feder,
Please do not forgot about us lefties when it comes to the anniversary model. I already have several Gibson SG Stds along with a CS SG VOS. There is a market for left handed SGs beyond the SG Std. How about a SG Jr/Special with P90s? How about having the Lyre unit available in left hand?

[H Lane (H-Bomb)]

T Manon (Tman5293), on 20 July 2010 - 12:39 AM, said:

You have basically just restated everything that has already been said on this topic. And the SG in those pictures is pretty much what everybody already had in mind.

Well...I might have reiterated a point or two, but I also threw in a few details not yet touched, and I was pretty careful about which photos I picked, there ARE some subtle differences between them and some previous ones posted if you really look at them side by side.

I think with some things, it's okay to state and restate points, because when you've waited almost 2 decades to have an opportunity like this to actually get your ideas heard and possibly FINALLY get the guitar of your dreams, you get passionate about it. And I wasn't jivin', I'd love to help them recapture that old recipe that has never been reproduced properly, so y'all vote for me!

H-Bomb

[D Sawyer (Dan)]

The SG junior should definitely be re-issued for the 50th. A total classic.

[S Berrian (The_Sentry)]

This is just a personal opinion, but I'm of the firm belief that the market is saturated with single cutaway electric guitars...Gibson or otherwise. (If you go to any online site or store, just about every manufacturer is doing a version or a variant of the Les Paul model.) I think between this, recent woes suffered by Gibson (including the flood), and the timely anniversary....it might be time to roll with the SG as the guitar of choice for the next year or two.

It's right in line with other American made guitars like the Fenders in terms of cost to the consumer. It delivers a great tone. It's lightweight. It's half the price of a Les Paul Standard.

I really hope Gibson reconsiders its flagship model with this as I think one of those "times" are about to be delivered, and the Les Paul is going to be out of vogue here before too long. (I own 2 of them, love them...but how many flavors of a Les Paul can the consumer handle?)

[L Moritz (SG Lou)]

H Lane (H-Bomb), on 20 July 2010 - 12:36 AM, said:

You want a Pelham Blue Standard with a Maestro and nickel hardware?

Like this ?