Are Gibson's Prices Too High in This Economy ? Shelf sitters they won't go away
Posted 27 October 2010 - 03:26 PM
Les Paul Classic 3 PU Black , PRS Custom 22, Double Fat Texas Special 50th Edition w/S1 Switching,
Les Paul Classic Gold Top, PRS CE 24 Gold Top, Fender Strat Standard American Made,
SG Standard Desert, PRS Swamp Ash Special Tobacco burst, Fender Strat Sdandard Mex,
SG Faded Brown, Ric 370 Metallic Blue, Fender Deluxe USA Stratocaster w/ noiseless pups,
SG Special 3 PU White Faded, Music Man S.U.B. Guitar Grey, Fender Telecaster Custom Gold Top China,
Flying V Faded, Brian May Special, Washburn WI66,
Explorer Pro Blue, 71 Blond Tele in near mint condition, Washburn WI67,
Explorer Pro Copper, Fender Mustang Repro Japan, Washburn A-20,
Marauder, Fender Lead II, Dean Hardtail import,
Epiphone Dot Special w/square markers, Fender Toranado special W/US Duncans, Restored 60's Strat surf green Texas Pups,
Tried to get my kids into playing so I got them a couple Daisy Rock guitars cheap. They were well made but the kids have not taken to playing yet.
Posted 28 October 2010 - 09:46 PM
Thank you, no, I am not a Fan: I am a Player/User, and I expect to be treated respectfully like a repeat customer.
Seeking owner(s) of Natural Bird's Eye Maple Les Paul. I wish to use a photo for non-commercial purposes on my webpage background. Please PM me if you own such an axe.
Posted 29 October 2010 - 11:02 AM
Posted 15 November 2010 - 12:46 PM
The color choices are what throw me. If I want pelham or tv yellow 61 SG I have to fork out $1200+ more for a VOS.
Posted 16 November 2010 - 11:08 PM
I see they let you back and you're still the 'same ole guy'.
Gibson CS 50th Anniversary R0 V2
Gibson CS 2012 VOS R8 Iced Tea
Gibson CS 2010 R7 Gold Top
2010 Gibson USA LP Traditional
Posted 24 December 2010 - 11:35 AM
I just put a deposit down on a 93' Gibby Flying V. I did it because USED the price is right, and yes, I do enjoy Gibson guitars.
I would rather that they understood the slice of Americana Guitar they represent and market accordingly. Dont do those limited runs of Fadeds. Make em until every player without a trust fund has bought one!! At some point they may step up to the pricier models. But even if they dont... they'll be playing Gibsons instead of falling in love with something made somewhere else.
Posted 24 December 2010 - 04:12 PM
Unfortunately the really older Gibson electric models, the full hollow archtops, likely never will reach those lower price lines and they're what I'd most like to own, from L5 to... whatever. They're just too time/labor/materials intensive for quality.
On the other hand... I think Epis are some of the better buys around. I'd personally far prefer an Epi to some of the price point competition - and a lotta those functionally are Gibsons with less expensive materials/labor.
Frankly I think there's a pretty wide variation of Gibson Made in USA guitars and Epis fill and at times bridge the gap, just without the USA manufacture.
Arguing appropriateness of overseas manufacture is another discussion entirely, at least to me. But as a consumer I'll put my bucks into an Epi Gibson copy or a low-end Gibson.
I think were I "the boss," I might cut back on some high-end models of USA and promote for a while some of the $200-$1,000 line of Epis - but the high-end "franchise" probably should be maintained, at least in my own opinion.
Posted 25 August 2012 - 11:50 AM
I'm not surprised, and I'm not saying that as criticism of Gibson, rather to some of the comments and notes of expectations on this forum even more than on the "regular" Gibbie and Epi forums.
I don't even know if they're monitoring this forum any more, but I'm not sure it was all that good an idea in the first place.
If a writer wrote something with a degree of constructive comment rather than what appears to many as a whine, there had been a response.
I can't forget that it actually took a bit of prodding to find out just how much HenryJ personally lost in the Nashville flood, not to mention the factory and the individual workers who got clobbered.
The folks at Gibson, including HenryJ, are human beings. They deserve more courtesy than a lotta material I saw on this forum. You don't want a Gibson or Epi, or you'd like to see them add something like a master volume to semis and/or hollows, that could be said easily with courtesy.
We tend to forget that in favor of "Gee, why don't you start selling ES335s for $37.50 so I can afford one."
Posted 25 August 2012 - 04:49 PM
That's why it puzzles me that since 2011, there's been no response whatsoever from anyone higher than forum admins like Flickoflash.
Why start a CEO forum, and not at least have some "CEO representative" posting on Henry's behalf?
How honest and fair is it to duck the regulars who have hung on practically since forum Day 1?
Is that fair? Is that honest, or does it look as if they're hiding from us?
Talk about "shelf sitting"!
Posted 25 August 2012 - 09:04 PM
Frankly I'm surprised it's still "up" for several reasons. Do you get the "4Henry,gibson.com driver error" as I do?
I do have a hunch there may be some sort of a reset as the government thing is put to rest and adjustments made on some of the PR side of things. The question likely will be whether this forum is worth continuing, and if so, how.
Again, that's just how it seems to me on a first sorta response.
Back to work. Last night a B.J. Thomas concert to "shoot" for newspapers and now a football game to write up and process pix.
Posted 25 August 2012 - 09:12 PM
Posted 26 August 2012 - 02:09 PM
That makes one wonder whether it's even considered a live forum at all by corporate.
BTW, it was great fun to watch this past Saturday night's B.J. Thomas concert in Deadwood, SD. Thousands of people on the street for a concert done quite well in terms of both visual and audio regardless the location.
Oh, and I still get "4henry.gibson.com Driver Error" here. <grin>
Posted 26 August 2012 - 07:47 PM
The seizing of computers didn't take down the servers keeping the forum up and running, and replies could have come from anywhere: a smartphone, a tablet in a wi-fi cafe, anywhere.
In the absence of evidence to the contrary, speculation can run rampant, but I can't see any particular level of commitment to the 4henry forum or its' stated purpose:
"I have set this up to give everyone an ability to reach the CEO and let me know what is on your mind.
(...)I would love to get suggestions from how the company works to what products you would like to see from us.
We hope by giving you direct access to management we can make this a company that is much more responsive to its fans, and we can bring more people into our Gibson family."